Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

04/11/2006 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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HB 482-SCHOOL:BULLYING/HARASSMENT/INTIMIDATION                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE   BILL   NO.  482,   "An   Act   relating  to   harassment,                                                               
intimidation, and bullying in schools."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:09:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON moved  to  adopt CSHB  482, Version  24-                                                               
LS0053\L,  Luckhaupt, 4/10/06,  as the  working document.   There                                                               
being  no  objection,  CSHB  482,   Version  L,  was  before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:10:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL NOVOTNEY,  Staff to  Representative Tom  Anderson, Alaska                                                               
State   Legislature,   introduced   HB    482,   on   behalf   of                                                               
Representative  Anderson, prime  sponsor,  paraphrasing from  the                                                               
following written statement [original punctuation provided]:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Clearly, bullying in  our schools is a problem.   It is                                                                    
     an  issue with  lasting effects  resulting in  problems                                                                    
     from  poor  academic  performance  on one  end  of  the                                                                    
     spectrum to  incidents of horrific and  tragic violence                                                                    
     on the other.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     It has been  suggested that on some  level perhaps some                                                                    
     degree of  bullying is "necessary"  as part  of growing                                                                    
     up and  developing the  coping and  conflict resolution                                                                    
     skills required  for adult life.   However, there  is a                                                                    
     vast   difference    between   "peer    conflict"   and                                                                    
     "bullying".   Granted,  at some  point in  each of  our                                                                    
     lives,  we  may  be  "picked  on"  or  "put  down"  and                                                                    
     experience  periods of  relative  unpopularity.   While                                                                    
     these experiences  are not pleasant, and  may indeed be                                                                    
     valuable in developing  critical life skills, generally                                                                    
     they do not rise to the level of bullying.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Bullying  is a  consistent  and  systematic process  of                                                                    
     degradation,  humiliation, and  violence.   Bullying is                                                                    
     intended to control  and dominate a person  by fear and                                                                    
     intimidation.    I  believe  people  who  suggest  that                                                                    
     bullying is  a good thing;  have never been  exposed to                                                                    
     it.    Some cite  athletic  coaches  or military  drill                                                                    
     instructors  as  examples  of those  who  use  bullying                                                                    
     effectively.  However  the challenges, difficulties and                                                                    
     motivational  techniques  those positions,  and  others                                                                    
     like them, employ are ultimately  designed to improve a                                                                    
     person, to  encourage a person to  challenge themselves                                                                    
     and  to exceed  their  own expectations.   Coaches  and                                                                    
     drill instructors gain no benefit  in exposing those in                                                                    
     their  charge  to  routine and  systematic  humiliation                                                                    
     with no  other end than  the ultimate destruction  of a                                                                    
     person's self-esteem and self-worth.   To the contrary,                                                                    
     their  sometimes-harsh treatment  is designed  to build                                                                    
     them up.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Furthermore addressing  bullying is as critical  to the                                                                    
     victims  as  to the  bully  themselves.   There  is  no                                                                    
     question the  damage bullying  inflicts on  the victim,                                                                    
     but in  considering this issue,  we often  overlook the                                                                    
     long-term  social damage  to and  from  bullies by,  at                                                                    
     least, tacitly  condoning their behavior.   A number of                                                                    
     studies have shown  that bullies are at  a much greater                                                                    
     risk  of criminal  conduct and  substance  abuse.   One                                                                    
     study shows  that 60% of  males who were  identified as                                                                    
     bullies during  grades six through nine  were convicted                                                                    
     of at least one crime  as an adult and that thirty-five                                                                    
     (35%) to forty  (40%) had three or  more convictions by                                                                    
     the  age of  24.   As policymakers  it is  as much  our                                                                    
     obligation to  protect those victimized by  bullies, as                                                                    
     it is  to correct bullying behavior  that prevents some                                                                    
     of our  young people  from realizing a  successful life                                                                    
     and the behavior that ultimately costs us so much.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  suggested that  Ms. Novotney  direct the                                                               
committee through the  [sub]sections of HB 482  and highlight the                                                               
important aspects of each.  Demonstrating, he said:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     That first [sub]section [(a)] ...  [says that] a school                                                                    
     district  may  adopt  by   2007  a  policy  prohibiting                                                                    
     harassment, intimidation, and  bullying of any student.                                                                    
     And then  the district shares this  policy with parents                                                                    
     and guardians, students,  volunteers, school employees,                                                                    
     ... basically  saying ...  we have a  policy ....   ...                                                                    
     [subsection] (b)  ... where  [the districts]  adopt the                                                                    
     standard policy for procedures for everyone to follow.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON stressed  that these (sub)sections inform                                                               
school districts that they may adopt a policy.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOVOTNEY explained  that  (sub)section  (c) establishes  the                                                               
deadline of  January 1,  2007, when  the Department  of Education                                                               
(DOE),  and other  interested or  related community  parties, may                                                               
provide a school with a  model policy particular to the interests                                                               
of the district.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  noted the change  in this section  from the                                                               
original language.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. NOVOTNEY pointed out that Version  I used the word "shall" in                                                               
(sub)section  (c), but  that  word and  other  language has  been                                                               
changed in Version L.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:16:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON   asked  for   an  explanation   of  the                                                               
rationale behind  establishing the 2007-2008 scholastic  year for                                                               
school districts to initiate reporting to DOE.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. NOVOTNEY explained that by  setting the date forward it would                                                               
provide  time  for  the  school  districts  to  amalgamate  their                                                               
efforts  in  creating  and implementing  policy  and  procedures.                                                               
Further,  the  November  30,  2007, date  for  the  districts  to                                                               
provide data to  DOE allows time for the department  to compile a                                                               
report for the legislature in January, 2008.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:17:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  noted that  information  in  the committee  packet                                                               
indicates that  school districts have  already taken up  the task                                                               
of dealing with harassment, intimidation, or bullying.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOVOTNEY responded  that 21  states  have existing  bullying                                                               
statutes  and   another  24  states  are   currently  introducing                                                               
legislation.    She  explained that  this  bill  revises  current                                                               
Alaska statute (Article 4] Section 14.33.110.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON inquired  whether the  intent  of this  bill is  to                                                               
establish   statute  for   what   the   districts  have   already                                                               
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. NOVOTNEY clarified that the  cited statute, entitled "Purpose                                                               
of  school disciplinary,  and safety  program," does  not mention                                                               
aspects of harassment, intimidation,  or bullying.  She explained                                                               
that HB 482 directs school  districts to take measures focused on                                                               
these  issues,  pertinent  to  their  locales.    To  assist  the                                                               
districts, she said, the bill  provides for model information and                                                               
training option resources.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:20:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON asked how  many school districts exist in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOVOTNEY  responded,  "Fifty-four; fifty  three,  or  fifty-                                                               
four."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON said:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Keep in  mind I  didn't create this.   ...  an attorney                                                                    
     from Anchorage  [called] and  said, "I've  litigated so                                                                    
     much  of  this that  I  think  you  need to  codify  in                                                                    
     statute  a parameter  upon which  school districts  may                                                                    
     utilize your  verbiage in  adopting their  own policies                                                                    
     and  procedures."   ... Is  it true  that every  school                                                                    
     district   doesn't  have   a  comprehensive,   detailed                                                                    
     bullying policy, hence the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOVOTNEY confirmed,  stating  that  approximately 13  school                                                               
districts   have  adopted   specific   harassment  and   bullying                                                               
policies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON forewarned  that  some school  districts                                                               
may  oppose this  bill  by protesting  that  action around  these                                                               
issues can  and will  be dealt  with appropriately  under current                                                               
law.   However, he  opined that the  legislative is  obligated to                                                               
provide specific  direction and  statutory language  to eliminate                                                               
harassment,  intimidation,  and  bullying.   He  illustrated  his                                                               
point, citing  the mandatory Native  studies issue as  a parallel                                                               
situation   which   required   statute  to   assure   educational                                                               
compliance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA observed that  the most damaging harassment                                                               
would be of  a sexual orientation, and asked  whether that aspect                                                               
is covered in the CS.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOVOTNEY   confirmed  that   sexual  harassment   is  herein                                                               
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked permission to  have her aide speak on                                                               
the sexual  harassment issue,  from her  experience as  a retired                                                               
school counselor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:24:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER inquired why  the "shall" was rewritten as                                                               
"may" in the CS.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. NOVOTNEY stated that this  language was altered in a previous                                                               
committee for legal reasons.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON interjected  that  the term  "shall" would  require                                                               
that the bill be attached with a fiscal note.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON offered his  understanding that a lawsuit                                                               
could be brought  if there is not  a formal policy in  place.  He                                                               
also opined  that "shall"  provides a  flexibility to  the school                                                               
districts, which  will be  important when  the bill  comes before                                                               
the House.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:25:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER  stated   that   "shall"  enforces   the                                                               
intention  of the  bill, whereas  "may" does  not.   Without this                                                               
language she asked,  "Why bother with the bill,  they already can                                                               
do it?"                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:26:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO recalled  from previous  committee work  on                                                               
this  bill, that  "shall" was  not,  nor is  it now,  terminology                                                               
which he  is able  to support.   He related  details of  a recent                                                               
successful   lawsuit,  lodged   against   the  Anchorage   School                                                               
District, which was based on a  student's off campus actions.  He                                                               
opined  that this  lawsuit came  about  because there  was not  a                                                               
comprehensive policy in place.   Echoing Representative Gardner's                                                               
concern,  he stated,  "This  bill  has no  value."   Further,  he                                                               
inquired, "What  do we gain here,  ... by saying ...  let's allow                                                               
them to do something they're allowed to do."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:29:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE SINGLETON, Bye-Bye Bullies, stated  support for HB 482, and                                                               
paraphrased  from the  following statement  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     There are a few reasons  I think this bill is important                                                                    
     and should be passed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     1st  -  Bullying is  bad  for  everyone involved.  Many                                                                    
     bullies become  convicted criminals as  adults. Victims                                                                    
     drop  out of  school  or become  rageful against  other                                                                    
     students.                                                                                                                  
     Even  By-standers are  negatively affected  - they  can                                                                    
     become apathetic toward the violence.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     There are experts  all over N. America  and Europe that                                                                    
     have proven  that children who  are taught how  to deal                                                                    
     with bullying  can change  the culture  of a  school so                                                                    
     that  bullying and  harassment are  not tolerated.  And                                                                    
     also  these skills  taught to  children  in school  can                                                                    
     serve  them well  as  adults. We  all  knew bullies  as                                                                    
     children, and we probably all  know bullies now. It can                                                                    
     be life changing for a  young person to have the skills                                                                    
     to deal with bullies.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Another  good  reason  for  this  legislation  is  that                                                                    
     schools should  be held responsible  for the  safety of                                                                    
     their   students.  Most   schools  have   anti-bullying                                                                    
     policies. A  lot of these  can be useless at  best, but                                                                    
     can even be harmful if  victims are punished under zero                                                                    
     tolerance  policies. Victims  of bullying  can turn  on                                                                    
     their school  - using  vandalism and lethal  violence -                                                                    
     like that at  Columbine and even in Bethel  a few years                                                                    
     ago.  Research based  anti-bullying programs,  not just                                                                    
     vague policies  are needed to actually  reduce bullying                                                                    
     in a school.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     I  don't necessarily  believe our  schools  need to  be                                                                    
     legislated at every  turn - but we  know that research-                                                                    
     based   anti-bullying   programs  can   reduce   school                                                                    
     violence and  dropout rates  - this  can save  money in                                                                    
     the  long  run.  It  can   create  a  culture  that  is                                                                    
     intolerant  of bullying  in  all  of Alaska's  schools.                                                                  
     Teachers can teach. Students can  learn. Money won't be                                                                    
     wasted   on   lawsuits,   vandalism,   discipline   and                                                                    
     enforcement of bad policy.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Students,  Teachers,  Parents  & Schools  will  benefit                                                                    
     from this legislation."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:31:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  referred to Ms. Singleton's  mention of the                                                               
Bethel and Columbine murders and  asked how an anti-bullying bill                                                               
could have prevented these incidents.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGLETON  pointed out  that the  perpetrators at  Bethel and                                                               
Columbine were  victims of  bullying.  She  opined that  if these                                                               
rage  filled students  had received  appropriate  support or  had                                                               
learned other ways to vent their  anger the outcome may have been                                                               
very  different, and  she  related her  own  experience of  being                                                               
bullied as a child.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:33:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked for substantiation of  her statement:                                                               
"We know that we can reduce violence in the long run."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGLETON   responded  that  the  research   based  programs                                                               
currently in use  have statistically shown a  reduced violence in                                                               
schools.   She named two  programs that are  currently instituted                                                               
in schools, as proven models.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated  and moved Amendment 1,  to read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 14,                                                                                                           
          Following "creed,"                                                                                                  
          Insert "sexual orientation,"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:36:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  objected  to   the  amendment  for  the                                                               
purpose of discussion.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:37:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CINDY  FOLSOM,  Staff  to Representative  Sharon  Cissna,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  Retired School  Counselor, stated  support of                                                               
HB 482, Amendment 1, and said  that in her seventeen year career,                                                               
she experienced an  80-90 percent rate of  bullying complaints to                                                               
have  sexual connotations.   This  is an  important aspect  to be                                                               
considered, she  said.  Responding  to a question,  she explained                                                               
that  casual  comments  may   strike  students  very  differently                                                               
depending on the individual's  situation, cautioning how harmless                                                               
a negative remark may seem on the surface.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  provided his observation of  the casual use                                                               
of negative terminology  by today's teenagers.   He asked whether                                                               
a teenager's casual comments should be taken literally.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON recalling  her experience as a  school nurse, stated                                                               
that on some level comments may need to be taken seriously.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  echoed that  for some students  a comment                                                               
may  be meaningless  and  taken  casually in  the  manner it  was                                                               
intended.      However,  for   a   student   who  is   struggling                                                               
emotionally/socially,  the  same  comment  could  have  a  harsh,                                                               
deleterious effect.   She pointed  out that a  challenged student                                                               
who  does   not  have  adequate  coping   abilities  may  respond                                                               
negatively to  stereotypical terminology  when it does  not apply                                                               
directly to them but possibly to a family member.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  removed his objection to  the amendment.                                                               
Further, he pointed out that  the bill language provides latitude                                                               
for school  administrators to report aggressive  comments or acts                                                               
of disparagement, in a discretionary manner.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:41:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GATTO  inquired   whether   the  80-90   percent                                                               
estimate,  provided  by  Ms.  Folsom,  represented  substantiated                                                               
harassment incidents  or if  it also  included reports  of casual                                                               
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:41:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON stated:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     I believe that ... administrators  ... are not going to                                                                    
     zero in on  ... flippant words. ... They  will ... zero                                                                    
     in   ...  when   things  ...   [need]  attention   ....                                                                    
     Administrators  in  schools ...  have  a  good idea  of                                                                    
     what's real and what's not.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:42:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO suggested  that  if the  numbers quoted  by                                                               
Ms. Folsom are  credible then a horrendous  situation must exist.                                                               
He questioned  the validity  of the numbers,  and he  opined that                                                               
this  bill  could  not  possibly   address  a  situation  of  the                                                               
magnitude implied.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  offered  that  Ms.  Folsom's  testimony                                                               
indicated that 80-90 percent of  harassment claims were egregious                                                               
enough for  students to seek  counseling.  Additionally,  he said                                                               
that this bill has merit to continue deliberation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:43:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  announced  that   hearing  no  further  objection,                                                               
Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated  and moved Amendment 2,  to read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6,                                                                                                            
          Delete "may"                                                                                                        
          Insert "shall"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     I  do understand  the concern  about liability  issues,                                                                    
     nevertheless, without  "shall" there is not  much point                                                                    
     in  this ...  bill.   If  we  believe school  districts                                                                    
     should have an anti bullying  policy then let's work on                                                                    
     this bill and pass it out.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON   stated  and  moved  Amendment   1,  to                                                               
Amendment 2, to read as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 5,                                                                                                            
          Delete "may"                                                                                                        
          Insert "shall"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Hearing no objection Amendment 1, to Amendment 2, was adopted.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO objected  to Amendment  2, and  pointed out                                                               
that  this amendment  would require  the bill  to have  a finance                                                               
referral, thus sending the bill to another committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  confirmed that  the bill would  be reported  to the                                                               
finance committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON pointed  out  that with  the deadline  for                                                               
hearing  bills in  the House  approaching,  adopting Amendment  2                                                               
would essentially be "killing the  bill," and he stated objection                                                               
to the amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  pointed out  that by removing  Amendment 2,                                                               
the amendment to the amendment would also be removed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked for  further affirmation  that this                                                               
bill would not  be able to pass  the House this year  if a fiscal                                                               
note were attached.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER withdrew Amendment 2.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:46:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON asked MS. Novotney  how the bill could be                                                               
altered to avoid a fiscal note attachment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. NOVOTNEY  pointed out that  striking page 2,  subsection (c),                                                               
would  eliminate   that  concern.    Further,   she  stated  that                                                               
maintaining the page  2, line 5, "may" would also  avoid a fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:48:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Understanding that each school district shall adopt a                                                                    
        policy, but not requiring the department ..., to                                                                        
     provide a model policy, allows an amendment ...                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON offered that the  School Board Association (SBA) has                                                               
several model policies that are available to schools.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOVOTNEY  reported that  the  Fairbanks  North Star  Borough                                                               
School   District  is   implementing  the   Safe  Schools/Healthy                                                               
Students initiative.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated  and moved Amendment 3,  to read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6,                                                                                                            
          Delete "may"                                                                                                        
          Insert "shall"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:49:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  directed the  sponsor's attention  to page                                                               
2,  line 11,  and read  the sentence  beginning: "The  department                                                               
shall post ...."   He asked whether that language  would invoke a                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON recommended that  the sentence be struck.                                                               
Responding  to a  question,  he clarified  that  an amendment  to                                                               
strike  the  language [page  2,  lines  11-13] through  the  word                                                               
"provide"  would be  acceptable  and would  not  invoke a  fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  stated and moved  Amendment 4, to  read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2,                                                                                                                    
     Line 11,                                                                                                                   
          Delete "also post"                                                                                                  
     Line 12,                                                                                                                   
          Delete "a brief summary of the policies,                                                                            
     programs, partnership, vendors, and instructional and"                                                                   
     Line 13,                                                                                                                   
           Delete "training materials for each school                                                                         
     district and"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment 4 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON moved  to report  CSHB 482,  Version 24-                                                               
LS0053\L, Luckhaupt,  4/10/06, as amended, out  of committee with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:52:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON objected, and  pointed out that the Council                                                               
on Domestic Violence  & Sexual Assault should be  involved in the                                                               
development of  this bill.   He reminded  the committee  that the                                                               
Council's purview is  to coordinate and to develop  programs.  He                                                               
opined that this aspect will  be brought forward in the judiciary                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON removed his objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:53:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  objected, and  opined  that  this type  of                                                               
legislation  continues to  remove  responsibility for  children's                                                               
behavior from  parents and places  more responsibility  on school                                                               
officials.    He pointed  out  that  although many  schools  have                                                               
already  adopted  a  policy  to  address  this  issue,  the  bill                                                               
mandates  that  every  school  must   implement  a  policy.    He                                                               
reiterated  that this  bill provides  fodder  for attorneys,  and                                                               
further expounded his original reservations.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:54:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated  an understanding of Representative                                                               
Gatto's  concerns,  but  stated,   "This  bill  isn't  about  the                                                               
bullies, it's about the victims, and  that is where we all have a                                                               
responsibility."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:54:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO withdrew his objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:55:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON announced  that there  being no  further objection,                                                               
CSHB 482(HES)  was reported  out of  the House  Health, Education                                                               
and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:55:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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